#kde is doing this real cool thing where if I hover the mouse over scribus or krita, the cursor shrinks.

[sky@social.coop]

@aeva what I hate the most is that they're right. KDE is the good wayland, which says a lot about the other wayland clients 💀

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sky gnome doesn't have the cursor shrinking problem

[sky@social.coop]

@aeva but it's wayland, so i'm sure it has a million other unexplainable problems anyway

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sky I'm more concerned about the very real problem that I can't find a fix for and makes me want to throw my laptop at you than some hypothetical but nevertheless plausible problems that exist in a thing I'm not using right now. Please take the tribalism somewhere else.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

if i had enough money that i didn't have to work a real job i absolutely am in the vulnerable state of mind that would think doing a hard break away from both x11 and wayland is somehow a good idea, but since i have a mortgage and a painful connective tissue disorder i am somewhat forced to value my own time, so i think i'm going to just paint tonight instead

[photex@icosahedron.website]

@aeva I don’t use Krita and haven’t observed this in other apps. Otherwise I’d definitely have issued the caveat.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@photex scribus also has the same problem

[tess@mastodon.social]

@aeva we regret to inform you that it is always Wayland

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@tess yes, and that is what i expected, but i really don't appreciate people lying to me to get me to join Their Team

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@aeva arcan-fe exists, if you really want to go fancy

[sonnybonds@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva To be fair I had the opposite problem in Gnome where cursors grew over some windows. Turned out there were two cursor settings (normal and legacy or something) and I had different cursors packs set for the two.

[photex@icosahedron.website]

@aeva I should have said “the other apps I use regularly” which is an admittedly rather short list I guess.

Anyway. Fucking Wayland. I hate it so much. Why has this happened to us? What couldn’t be fixed in X11?

Just yesterday I was ssh’d into a machine and realized that I can no longer run a GUI with X forwarding like was the norm since 1996.

I wish everyone today could experience what was just bog standard on Sun and Sgi workstations.

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

@aeva i think this sometimes too, but then you end up with three incompatible apis to target as an application developer :(

[dotstdy@mastodon.social]

@aeva edit: oh i read through the issues and posts and now i see... it's just that their fixes only works if you use the default themes and default cursor sizes (and a relatively recent gnome, and a relatively recent kde). otherwise it's back to the wild west. xd hurray

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@photex wayland is such a painful step backward ;_;

[lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva @photex we need a clip of john cleese losing it over wayland

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dotstdy what's really great is their fix doesn't even work. switching back to the default cursor still has the problem

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@dotstdy it is one part solution and two parts vindictive nonsense

[lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva @dotstdy me (stimming in the corner): middleware will solve it. middleware will solve it. m

[sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aeva my experience every time I try to switch to Linux on the desktop is that a whole bunch of things don’t work quite right or have annoying quirks but everyone waves them away as “not important” because they only ever use a terminal and maybe a web browser. I’d love it to be good for my use because Windows sucks but it’s just worse in lots of little ways that annoy me more than MS’s periodic BS that I can mostly ignore (still grumble about but it’s not in my face all day)