Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".
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presenting technically correct information, without a financial gain bias, isn't guaranteed to work every time but it's definitely worth trying every time. sometimes, the right thing happens.
@paul_ipv6 exactly. Here, there is also financial gain so they're happy^2.
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@CyReVolt @stefano This is the kind of info a beginner like me needs to understand about email servers and OpenBSD. Could you comment on completeness and correctness of this guide?
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/12aydcc/beginners_guide_to_simple_selfhosted_email_on/
@MHowell @CyReVolt that's a good guide. I've also written something about it: https://it-notes.dragas.net/2024/03/08/make-your-own-email-server-freebsd-opensmptd-rspamd-dovecot-part1/
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@stefano tell me you were cheering with an espresso cup in the hand, equivalent of "dropping mic" for the nerds :)
@omar oh, I did 😆
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@stefano Good, you won a battle, but the war is still here to stay. Here, we (all people with the same ideas about) lost the battle in our national research institution. The prospect is that those monopolies will start to accept email only from qualified/registered peers, citing spam as the excuse, not too far in the future.
@gisgeek unfortunately, this will likely happen. "Security reasons" is the best way to close their own systems. Even if most of the spam I'm receiving is from legit Google or MS accounts as rspamd is filtering the others out.
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@stefano Good for you!
I just lost that battle - we are moving from onprem Exchange to 365 because the CEO wants all those shiny cloud integrations for their calendar.@thechris I know what it means 😔
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
@oldsysops exactly. every single bit counts.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us" -
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"@vivekanandanks It's roughly what I said, but in an extremely subtle way. The client understood it perfectly, the salesperson did not.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
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@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
@mms thank you. Yes, exactly. The "real world"
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@benjamineskola @gme no lock-in involved. I proposed several solutions and they decided they want OpenBSD as they're already using it for some services (mainly ssh and VPN endpoints) and they appreciate it. Their internal IT staff is able to manage it on their own, at least for basic stuff.
Mailcow is nice - I'm using and installing it when needed, but it's another "product". Having different components involved means being able to replace them individually.
But yes, I can understand your point of view and you're not wrong.
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@Edent I think you need a lot of sugar or starch content, so for example leafy greens aren't going to work well. People make tomato wine all the time, though!
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@Edent I don't know for sure but I think samogon is the catch-all term for spirits made from mixed ingredients.
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@gme @stefano I don’t think that’s entirely fair — I kind of see your point, but the difference is that you can in principle find someone else who can manage a FreeBSD server or even an OpenBSD one. The pool of potential sysadmins might not be huge, but it’s there. It’s not at all the same kind of vendor lock-in as Google or Microsoft.
(You’re right, though, that there is a value in choosing a more widely-adopted system. But it’s not unlimited value otherwise we’d always just have to choose Google or Microsoft despite the lock-in; there’s also value in it being open and documented.)
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Most fruits and vegetables can be fermented into alcohol, right?
Grapes = Wine.
Potato = Vodka.
Wheat = Beer.
Apricot stones = Amaretto.
etc etc.But are there things which *can't* be turned into alcohol?
I've never seen tomato wine. Or onion schnapps.
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