Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".
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presenting technically correct information, without a financial gain bias, isn't guaranteed to work every time but it's definitely worth trying every time. sometimes, the right thing happens.
@paul_ipv6 exactly. Here, there is also financial gain so they're happy^2.
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@CyReVolt @stefano This is the kind of info a beginner like me needs to understand about email servers and OpenBSD. Could you comment on completeness and correctness of this guide?
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/12aydcc/beginners_guide_to_simple_selfhosted_email_on/
@MHowell @CyReVolt that's a good guide. I've also written something about it: https://it-notes.dragas.net/2024/03/08/make-your-own-email-server-freebsd-opensmptd-rspamd-dovecot-part1/
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@stefano tell me you were cheering with an espresso cup in the hand, equivalent of "dropping mic" for the nerds :)
@omar oh, I did 😆
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@stefano Good, you won a battle, but the war is still here to stay. Here, we (all people with the same ideas about) lost the battle in our national research institution. The prospect is that those monopolies will start to accept email only from qualified/registered peers, citing spam as the excuse, not too far in the future.
@gisgeek unfortunately, this will likely happen. "Security reasons" is the best way to close their own systems. Even if most of the spam I'm receiving is from legit Google or MS accounts as rspamd is filtering the others out.
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@stefano Good for you!
I just lost that battle - we are moving from onprem Exchange to 365 because the CEO wants all those shiny cloud integrations for their calendar.@thechris I know what it means 😔
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
@oldsysops exactly. every single bit counts.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us" -
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"@vivekanandanks It's roughly what I said, but in an extremely subtle way. The client understood it perfectly, the salesperson did not.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
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@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
@mms thank you. Yes, exactly. The "real world"
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano Nice, well done!
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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Dopo circa 2 mesi di palestra, mi sento un altro corpo. Il lavoro è ancora lungo, ma vedere dei risultati mi sta motivando.
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@VanityFairItaly @news-VanityFairItaly meloni vergogna
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@altbot è un video di una manifestazione a Rona contro il genocidio israeliano a Gaza dei confronti dei Palestinesi
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@OrionBelt Spiacente, non sono riuscito a elaborare questa immagine.
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En direct de la manifestation générale, Roma 🇮🇹🇵🇸
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@kristiana
Ti diverti in silenzio ?
Per non dare soddisfazione ?
😎
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@G3rt
Non so se siamo alla frutta o meno, sai che quando si tocca il fondo puoi sempre iniziare a scavare...
Io ieri ho partecipato al corteo organizzato nella mia città ed è stato molto emozionante.
Voglio vederci un segnale di speranza
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