#ActivityPub is getting its first formal update path since 2018.
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@julian @fediversereport AP is an ugly duckling.
Maybe it shouldn't be a Web standard, but sit apart from (and inter-operate with) it instead. Maybe the right org is the IETF...
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@fediversereport If they are smart they will fix a raft of fundamental UX pitfalls in current ActivityPub by defining a protocol handler for it.
Email needed its protocol handler spec while it was getting established – and arguably still does – and I do think this is one of the ways in which ActivityPub is "like email".
@tasket@infosec.exchange an official protocol handler would help a lot. Today there is the option of introducing a web protocol handler but the UX for it is pretty dogshit (Piefed recently implemented it, and the number of dialogues was too damn high!)
That said I don't know if PWAs can register against non-web protocol handlers. That would be useful for sites like NodeBB.
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@julian There are several dozens of actively maintained ActivityPub implementations, I think it is not difficult to find two implementers among them, especially if they will be paid to implement a proposed change / extension (as we have seen with the E2EE proposal).
@slyborg @evan @connected-places @fediversereport @ArneBab @alexchapman
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@julian IMO there's no reason why a web browser should understand where to open fedi links, without having any other type of app properly address those links as well.
What if someone in an instant messenger or email app sends you a link to fedi content?
Defining it at the system level (again, as is done with email) removes critical uncertainties.
Fedi has other big UX issues as well. Celebrities don't like it here because the TL mechanics make them unintentionally annoying... users follow then later mute them because their posts are popular for a while and we have to see them each and every time they're boosted (or manually silence those posts). Allowing the selection of some transparent algorithms could fix this.
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg I will fight pretty hard against breaking changes in ActivityPub. We have an active network with tens of millions of people and tens of thousands of servers. It's too late for breaking changes and it has been for a really long time. Expect changes like: describing required properties of activities better. How `replies` (and maybe `context`) work. References to OAuth, Webfinger and HTTP Signature.
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg I will fight pretty hard against breaking changes in ActivityPub. We have an active network with tens of millions of people and tens of thousands of servers. It's too late for breaking changes and it has been for a really long time. Expect changes like: describing required properties of activities better. How `replies` (and maybe `context`) work. References to OAuth, Webfinger and HTTP Signature.
@julian @silverpill @slyborg it's also worth noting that all discussions of the WG will be on a public mailing list. People can join the meetings, comment on drafts on GitHub. People interested in making more substantive contributions can become invited experts, even if they're not from a member organization.
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg it's also worth noting that all discussions of the WG will be on a public mailing list. People can join the meetings, comment on drafts on GitHub. People interested in making more substantive contributions can become invited experts, even if they're not from a member organization.
@julian @silverpill @slyborg most importantly: no protocol is mandatory. No protocol revision is mandatory. If the work the WG does isn't useful, nobody has to implement it.
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg most importantly: no protocol is mandatory. No protocol revision is mandatory. If the work the WG does isn't useful, nobody has to implement it.
@julian @silverpill @slyborg the changes I have marked for the next version are here.
https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3A%22Next%20version%22
I know there are some on there that Silverpill won't like, such as supporting IRIs for object IDs. I think it's worth having that conversation.
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg the changes I have marked for the next version are here.
https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3A%22Next%20version%22
I know there are some on there that Silverpill won't like, such as supporting IRIs for object IDs. I think it's worth having that conversation.
@julian @silverpill @slyborg I wonder, though: what would be some changes that would worry you, though? I'm having a hard time imagining what they would be.
The best I can come up with are features that are too complex for small development teams (e.g. oodles of mandatory APIs), or too resource intensive for small instances to support (e.g. required to handle terabytes of big data).
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@julian @silverpill @slyborg I wonder, though: what would be some changes that would worry you, though? I'm having a hard time imagining what they would be.
The best I can come up with are features that are too complex for small development teams (e.g. oodles of mandatory APIs), or too resource intensive for small instances to support (e.g. required to handle terabytes of big data).
The only other thing I can think of are forced anti-features, like mandatory advertising, mandatory algorithmic feeds, or forced participation in LLM training.
Are there other things I'm missing?
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@eniko there's an ongoing poll by duck duck go asking what everyone thinks of it, and everybody is sharing the current poll results with 90%+ against
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Beth Humphreys 🌺 (@producrgrl.bsky.social)
https://bsky.app/profile/producrgrl.bsky.social/post/3mclmofshg22n
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@dillyd @CathyBikesBook screaming goat music?
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Il tempo è limitato e lo si dedica ad altri
Così, sempre nell'esempio, si dedica tempo ad altri e non ai genitori. Li si va a trovare, si parla, si chiede come va, ma non si ascolta, veramente
E si perdono
È normale, in fondo, ma quel che si perde è la vera consapevolezza di quel che sta succedendo, perché ci sta che si viva la propria vita, ma non ci si accorge di star perdendo parte vera della propria vita, e ci si sveglia solo dopo, in un presente lontano, in parte irrecuperabile
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Beth Humphreys 🌺 (@producrgrl.bsky.social)
https://bsky.app/profile/producrgrl.bsky.social/post/3mclmvxuekk2n
> #handsoff #nokings #ReleaseALLthefiles #EpsteinFiles #lovemyGov #itsthefuckingguns #midterms26 #getridofElectoralCollege #TheEpsteinBallroom Release ALL the files NOW 25th Ammendment NOW
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@davidjamesweir @lexfeathers there's also the vague possibility that it may be used internally to push back against decisions from the top, but either way it's still worth voting and great to see such skewed results
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@claushoumann @notthatdelta @lexfeathers @Em0nM4stodon back to 95% when I voted, but still all the way up there.
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A volte si rifiuta quello che dicono gli altri solo perché sentito come esagerato
Eppure basta ascoltare, capire la frequenza a cui parlano e provare a sintonizzarsi, invece di rifiutarsi di muoversi (non cambiare idea, ma avvicinarsi all'altro in modo da ascoltare davvero)Perché se io dico che ci si rifiugia in un mondo parallelo, si va a pensare alle bolle, a un isolamento totale
Invece basta poco, e si va in un mondo parallelo perché non si ascolta più
Il tempo e limitato
