FAA just announced a 10 day emergency temporary restricted area for a 10 mile radius around El Paso.
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@tinker yeah. It’s either an incredibly dumb reason or an incredibly scary reason. Incredibly dumb is more likely than it once was, but we still can’t rule out incredibly scary.
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@joyce @douglevin That wouldn’t make sense. If it were a public health emergency involving the airport, they’d just close the airport, not the airspace around it.
You're right. As I posted already, just an early-morning scary thought.
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https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/670536-el-paso-closed.html#post12035668
“Well given the proximity to Fort Bliss and the Mexican border. It has been suggested it's a precursor to a raid into Ciudad Juarez to snatch or attack a cartel figure.
Closing the airspace would avoid friendly fire incidents.
Unprecedented though. What the Mexican government would make of that scenario is another thing.”
@stepheneb @tinker @mattblaze
But then you wouldn't shut it down for 10 days. You wouldn't shut it down at all, because that would put the target being snatched on notice.And if something like that were happening in any sort of cooperation with Mexico, you'd see a similar shut down on their side of the border. And if it's happening without cooperation, it's another invasion, like Venezuela except with a lot more consequences and a press release beforehand to warn the targets.
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Is it too cynical to suggest this is a wag-the-dog on DHS funding?
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FAA just announced a 10 day emergency temporary restricted area for a 10 mile radius around El Paso. No flights are permitted from ground level to 18000 feet, grounding all flights to/from the El Paso airport (KELP).
Designed as “national defense airspace”, with “deadly force authorized if aircraft determined to pose a security threat”.
No reason given
About closed air space in El Paso….
certain Eric Clapton song pops up in my head for no reason.
Although, certain procedure of disposal of evidence and people in Latin American dictatorships also comes to mind.
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FAA just announced a 10 day emergency temporary restricted area for a 10 mile radius around El Paso. No flights are permitted from ground level to 18000 feet, grounding all flights to/from the El Paso airport (KELP).
Designed as “national defense airspace”, with “deadly force authorized if aircraft determined to pose a security threat”.
No reason given
Should we be looking for a petty, vindicitive reason?
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@tinker yeah. It’s either an incredibly dumb reason or an incredibly scary reason. Incredibly dumb is more likely than it once was, but we still can’t rule out incredibly scary.
@mattblaze @tinker I bet it's something petty like the airport manager saying mean things about Melanie movie on twitter
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FAA just announced a 10 day emergency temporary restricted area for a 10 mile radius around El Paso. No flights are permitted from ground level to 18000 feet, grounding all flights to/from the El Paso airport (KELP).
Designed as “national defense airspace”, with “deadly force authorized if aircraft determined to pose a security threat”.
No reason given
@mattblaze well, this regime can do anything, kidnap you, beat up grandma / no reason given
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Should we be looking for a petty, vindicitive reason?
no
this is beyond "i'm going to whine and extort you because you hurt my feelings"
this has deeper currents of malice (potentially: of course i have no fucking clue what is going on. but since it's a MAGA thing it could be quite bad)
for a regular administration, the notice might lift, life carries on, and we never find out the national security reason
for this administration, the reason might be stupid and/ or corrupt
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This is very unusual. Aside from the disruption- it closes a large metropolitan airport for 10 days- no advance notice was given. So this isn’t for some planned event or operation.
A particularly weird thing about this is that if it were about protecting something on the ground, you would expect there to also be all sorts of things being done on the ground, with local police, etc. But there’s nothing. It’s just the FAA, so far.
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@tinker yeah. It’s either an incredibly dumb reason or an incredibly scary reason. Incredibly dumb is more likely than it once was, but we still can’t rule out incredibly scary.
@mattblaze @tinker @jianmin My only two guesses verge on the conspiratorial, but these days that could be very likely.
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@tinker yeah. It’s either an incredibly dumb reason or an incredibly scary reason. Incredibly dumb is more likely than it once was, but we still can’t rule out incredibly scary.
@mattblaze @tinker Trump thinks the Gordie Howe Bridge in Windsor starts in El Paso
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A particularly weird thing about this is that if it were about protecting something on the ground, you would expect there to also be all sorts of things being done on the ground, with local police, etc. But there’s nothing. It’s just the FAA, so far.
@mattblaze they’re going to attack drug cartels in Juarez. Same closure as the Caribbean before Venezuela.
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A particularly weird thing about this is that if it were about protecting something on the ground, you would expect there to also be all sorts of things being done on the ground, with local police, etc. But there’s nothing. It’s just the FAA, so far.
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@mattblaze if they are using spicy waveforms they won’t want aircraft doing ELINT.
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@aholtzma not the same area.
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@aholtzma not the same area.
@mattblaze my bad, my Texas geography knowledge was lacking.
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@mattblaze @tinker @jianmin My only two guesses verge on the conspiratorial, but these days that could be very likely.
@SteveBellovin @tinker @jianmin I’m hard pressed to understand how disrupting life in and the economy of the well known radical leftist bastion of El Paso, TX owns the libs, but you never know.
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@SteveBellovin @tinker @jianmin I’m hard pressed to understand how disrupting life in and the economy of the well known radical leftist bastion of El Paso, TX owns the libs, but you never know.
@mattblaze @tinker @jianmin My two guesses: it has something to do with mass deportation flights, or it's a practice run for punishing larger blue area. But I think that @cstross has it right: the airport will be involved in or close to a military operation in Mexico.
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A particularly weird thing about this is that if it were about protecting something on the ground, you would expect there to also be all sorts of things being done on the ground, with local police, etc. But there’s nothing. It’s just the FAA, so far.
@mattblaze there’s a 2nd TFR on the border to the west in NM
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