Smarter and more transparent food ecosystem.

[scalonnec@pouet.chapril.org]

@EUCommission Hopefully we had to wait the IA-God to save us from laxative food. We're blessed now ! I guess humans were not sapiens enough to do this.

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@witchescauldron @ki @EUCommission

So you don't actually know about 'funding'? You're just assuming/guessing?

[ki@chaos.social]

@witchescauldron @gsymon @EUCommission
and don't get me wrong, statistical analysis can be powerful and a great tool in research and for low-risk and redundant applications, but food safety is NOT low-risk!

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

The AI seems like a good use case to me, because trying to follow this stuff manually, is massively complex and requires huge levels of policing. Sort of like the major problem of uncovering the money-launderers. Police don't have the funds to spend the time following the money.

[witchescauldron@kolektiva.social]

@gsymon @ki @EUCommission

The #EU account ONLY pushes stuff they fund... but can't be bothered to click through to check was hoping to crowed source that info as a part of composting.

If we don't get a group of people to actively compost this #techshit we are not getting anywhere.

I leave space in all my work, so people can fill it #KISS

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission
It's an EU project. It's literally commissioned by the EU. It's EU-funded.

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

"It's an EU project. It's literally commissioned by the EU. It's EU-funded."

Well... that's what I thought, which is why I asked who was supposedly the corrupt beneficiary?

[janantos@f.cz]

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission AI does not equal LLM ;-)

[witchescauldron@kolektiva.social]

@ki @gsymon @EUCommission

Good link clicking, building a team, now we need a codebase to holed the team together #OMN

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission
"massively complex" is a good keyword, because statistics is massively complex and trusting a black box that is essentially an accuracy slot machine can easily be lethal. People can't easily comprehend statistics, which makes education on "AI slop" so difficult. Food inspections, however, are a manual process that you can trust. Your statistics shift towards how regular these inspections should be, which has entirely different implications.

[janantos@f.cz]

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission we use AI in hospitals here in Estonia and it is well accepted by medical staff. https://news.err.ee/1609953731/doctors-artificial-intelligence-already-saving-lives-in-estonia

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

That's not how it's going to work. It's not based on statistics. It's based on 'following the food':

"By monitoring the agri-food supply chain in real-time, it will:

🚫 Spot risks with improved screening accuracy
🦠 Track shipments in seconds to stop foodborne disease outbreaks
🛒 Remove non-compliant products from the market faster"

[ki@chaos.social]

@gsymon @witchescauldron @EUCommission

> "not based on statistics"

what do you think "AI-powered" implies?

[gsymon@mstdn.social]

@ki @witchescauldron @EUCommission

Good question.

I imagine that it will enable dealing with huge amounts of information.

Perhaps it will apply 'probability' in terms of where something is originating and where it's going and how it's getting there?

[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@thibaultmol @EUCommission I wonder though how AI comes into play here. From the video it looks like a problem that would allow for an exact solution.
Is the search space so big that an analytic solution is no longer feasible?

[statsguy@mas.to]

@EUCommission AI powered? Seriously? For *safety* purposes?

Forgive me if I don't feel safer.

[katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org]

@janantos

From the article you have linked:

»At the same time, the new technology brings false alarms and added responsibilities and runs up against the country's e-state data challenges.«

Hallucinations in "AI"-powered transcripts are putting the health of patients at risk.

Also, there's already a AI Mental Health Project that helps with "AI"-induced, substantial psychological problems.

I wish you good health and good luck, should "AI" have any say in the treatments of yours.

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission

[janantos@f.cz]

@katzenberger @RachelThornSub @EUCommission yeah, but also positives exists and they are also appreciated by staff ;-)

[janantos@f.cz]

@katzenberger @RachelThornSub @EUCommission have you actualy read the article where doctors say how it is saving lives of patients with strokes and heart attacks, i have seen my x-ray where it pointed where it is problem and helped doctor to move quicker. Same my x-ray lungs image during first or second covid wave

[katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org]

@janantos

Yup, saw that. I'm glad it was helpful for you.

And just today, I read a post here by a woman who saw an AI assistant cancel her hormone therapy via an incorrect transcription, despite her MD said and prescribed the exact opposite. She was struggling to revert that, because she had waited for her appointment for a long time and was lucky her MD resolved that emergency problem in a timely fashion.

@RachelThornSub @EUCommission