Big news for the #Fediverse!
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RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
Big news for the #Fediverse! End-to-end encryption is coming to #ActivityPub.
@swf with support from @sovtechfund is coordinating two interoperable implementations.
Bonfire is proud to be one of these first two projects, alongside #Emissary by @benpate
We think #E2EE should simply be the default for any private communications, and we’re especially thrilled to bring private, trusted collaboration to the fediverse.
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RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
Big news for the #Fediverse! End-to-end encryption is coming to #ActivityPub.
@swf with support from @sovtechfund is coordinating two interoperable implementations.
Bonfire is proud to be one of these first two projects, alongside #Emissary by @benpate
We think #E2EE should simply be the default for any private communications, and we’re especially thrilled to bring private, trusted collaboration to the fediverse.
We hope this will enable the fediverse to become a safer space for activists and communities to organise, coordinate, and collaborate meaningfully. By making secure, user-friendly messaging a core part of the fediverse, we can help lay the groundwork for decentralised networks where people can go beyond talking in the mythical ‘global town square’ and actually organise and accomplish things together.
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We hope this will enable the fediverse to become a safer space for activists and communities to organise, coordinate, and collaborate meaningfully. By making secure, user-friendly messaging a core part of the fediverse, we can help lay the groundwork for decentralised networks where people can go beyond talking in the mythical ‘global town square’ and actually organise and accomplish things together.
@bonfire is it feasible that someone could build a chat client that would let any Fediverse account privately talk with any other Fediverse account?
Because that would be insanely cool.
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@bonfire is it feasible that someone could build a chat client that would let any Fediverse account privately talk with any other Fediverse account?
Because that would be insanely cool.
@alisynthesis The initial idea is that all fediverse apps (clients and servers) should implement the standard for maximum interoperability. But it's definitely worth thinking about what we could do to make that possible in any case!
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RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
Big news for the #Fediverse! End-to-end encryption is coming to #ActivityPub.
@swf with support from @sovtechfund is coordinating two interoperable implementations.
Bonfire is proud to be one of these first two projects, alongside #Emissary by @benpate
We think #E2EE should simply be the default for any private communications, and we’re especially thrilled to bring private, trusted collaboration to the fediverse.
@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate Will this mean the possibility of friends-only (i.e. people you select, rather than anyone who follows you) posts on Mastodon/Pixelfed/similar? If ActivityPub ever gets mass adoption, that will be important, because when everyone’s here, so are griefers, trolls, pig-butchers and as yet uncategorised hostile actors.
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@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate Will this mean the possibility of friends-only (i.e. people you select, rather than anyone who follows you) posts on Mastodon/Pixelfed/similar? If ActivityPub ever gets mass adoption, that will be important, because when everyone’s here, so are griefers, trolls, pig-butchers and as yet uncategorised hostile actors.
@acb @bonfire @swf @sovtechfund
This *specific* tech will make private groups, similar to Apple Messages, Signal, and WhatsApp.
It won’t make “Friends Only” posts, but.. both Emissary and Bonfire already provide different flavors of “Circles” that let you choose the visibility of your posts. https://emissary.dev/circles
Id live for other Fediverse tools like Mastodon to add this too.
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RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/
Big news for the #Fediverse! End-to-end encryption is coming to #ActivityPub.
@swf with support from @sovtechfund is coordinating two interoperable implementations.
Bonfire is proud to be one of these first two projects, alongside #Emissary by @benpate
We think #E2EE should simply be the default for any private communications, and we’re especially thrilled to bring private, trusted collaboration to the fediverse.
@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate is it client or server side?
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@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate is it client or server side?
Emd to end => Client side encryption. And only you will hold the private keys.
Messages travel via ActivityPub inboxes, but are opaque to the servers.
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Emd to end => Client side encryption. And only you will hold the private keys.
Messages travel via ActivityPub inboxes, but are opaque to the servers.
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@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate is it client or server side?
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@acb @bonfire @swf @sovtechfund
This *specific* tech will make private groups, similar to Apple Messages, Signal, and WhatsApp.
It won’t make “Friends Only” posts, but.. both Emissary and Bonfire already provide different flavors of “Circles” that let you choose the visibility of your posts. https://emissary.dev/circles
Id live for other Fediverse tools like Mastodon to add this too.
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@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate Will this mean the possibility of friends-only (i.e. people you select, rather than anyone who follows you) posts on Mastodon/Pixelfed/similar? If ActivityPub ever gets mass adoption, that will be important, because when everyone’s here, so are griefers, trolls, pig-butchers and as yet uncategorised hostile actors.
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@soatok @ligasser @bonfire let's start a thread to make sure we are clear amongst ourselves! We all really want to see collaborative and interoperable solutions, especially when so much expert thought has gone into them
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@alisynthesis The initial idea is that all fediverse apps (clients and servers) should implement the standard for maximum interoperability. But it's definitely worth thinking about what we could do to make that possible in any case!
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@bonfire is it feasible that someone could build a chat client that would let any Fediverse account privately talk with any other Fediverse account?
Because that would be insanely cool.
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@ligasser @bonfire Not sure, but:
Specification: https://github.com/fedi-e2ee/public-key-directory-specificationImplementation: https://github.com/fedi-e2ee/pkd-server-phpAnnouncement: https://soatok.blog/2025/12/15/announcing-key-transparency-fediverse/The AuxData thing should also be useful for folks that want to build atop my feature to add transparency to other types of public keys (or any other public commitments of static data, such as security researchers publishing hashes of vulnerabilities being disclosed).
