Is this the first time a major service has removed end-to-end encryption instead of adding it?

[alerymin@shelter.moe]

@pheonix there was e2ee ?

[0x58@infosec.exchange]

@pheonix WT....

[serigala_tropis@lgbtqia.space]

@pheonix isn't E2EE chat only available on Facebook, not Instagram? I don't remember Instagram has E2EE.

[serigala_tropis@lgbtqia.space]

@Alerymin @pheonix I don't trust this post.

[alerymin@shelter.moe]

@serigala_tropis https://www.facebook.com/help/instagram/491565145294150/

[serigala_tropis@lgbtqia.space]

@Alerymin this is strange. I was an avid user of Instagram for almost 10 years and never heard of that feature.

[shadowwwind@fosstodon.org]

@Alerymin @pheonix not for long, since december 2023 https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/

[rusty__shackleford@mastodon.social]

@serigala_tropis @pheonix

"I don't trust this post."

"isn't E2EE chat only available on Facebook, not Instagram? I don't remember Instagram has E2EE."

Literally takes more time to type than:

"google.com"

"instagram e2ee"

https://www.clrn.org/is-instagram-end-to-end-encrypted/

Long story short, yes.

Jesus fucking christ.

[polyfloyd@hsnl.social]

@pheonix Because they can

[gooba42@mastodon.social]

@pheonix They're done leaving money on the table. Surveiling your every waking moment and conversation is too lucrative for any commercial entity to resist.

The ID verification shit under cover of "save the children" is just more capitulation by the regulators to market demand for more and more granular surveillance data.

[csgraves@turtleisland.social]

@pheonix why? Because Meta is an evil company and wants all of your data and personal information. Don’t use it.

[alerymin@shelter.moe]

@shadowwwind @pheonix oh, I already stopped insta back then

[ox1de@cyberplace.social]

@pheonix they need to keep an eye on you and who you're talking to

[janeraticiano@mstdn.animexx.de]

@pheonix the answer seems pretty obvious.

[neurologo@bcn.fedi.cat]

@pheonix @pheonix @DavidNielsen To better spy on you, I’d venture.

[lockedintospace@mastodon.social]

@pheonix I wonder if it applies to WhatsApp as well... If I'm not wrong, both Instagram and WhatsApp are owned by Meta...

[davidnielsen@mastodon.social]

@neurologo @pheonix that is always a Meta preference, however I wouldn’t count out sucking up to Cheeto Hitler either.

WhatsApp is next, give it a few weeks.

[pheonix@hachyderm.io]

@gooba42 Hit the nail on the head regarding the underlying data economics.

Not to sound like a conspiracy person but with the current industry arms race for LLM training pipelines, keeping petabytes of chat history cryptographically opaque was probably deemed an unacceptable opportunity cost lol 😭

[alex@social.alexhyett.com]

@pheonix how is the government ever going to protect the children if it can’t read all of your messages easily.

[flesh@transfem.social]

@pheonix@hachyderm.io As a wise woman once said, "come on, you know why".