New Vivaldi release for Windows, Mac & Linux.
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At Opera we had the largest team of any company engaging with writing the Web standards we all use today. There are some guys working on Chromium today that are former Opera people, but sadly they do not work for us.
We can contribute more and have more of an influence with a larger company. Currently we spend a lot of time just modifying and improving functionality, but we are not getting much of our changes into Chromium. We hope to change that, but first we must grow more.
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@ed , I think moving away from Chromium is not an option at this time. Having made a browser from scratch before, Opera, I know what it takes to build a browser from scratch and there is a reason companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft have not done it.
I think there is great value in us growing and being able to contribute more to the Chromium project. I think that can make a significant difference.
@jon @ed It's reasonable to stick to a well-tested engine, as long as you make sure that upstream doesn't start deprecating vital functionality (like Manifest v2). In that regard, do you have any particular blockers that stop you from releasing the source code for the rest of the application? I can't trust myself to put my personal passwords in a browser that may or may not be secretly funneling them elsewhere, and relying on Ghidra and Wireshark to verify it is suboptimal. -
@jon as long as you avoid "AI", I'm in.
(WTF is "AI" doing in _anything_, in the first place, is beyond me) -
@jon Just got a very enthusiastic demonstration of what is possible with the new tiling, time to upgrade!
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@jon as long as you avoid "AI", I'm in.
(WTF is "AI" doing in _anything_, in the first place, is beyond me)@DataKnightmare @jon Hi Jon. Great work at Vivaldi. Here we appreciate so much your work and your browser. Please consider every day about use of AI. I (and a lot of people here in Italy!) don't want any of this f*ked chatbot in my browser. So keep going on, I will share to every my friends about this.
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@dallo@pouet.chapril.org @jon@vivaldi.net @ed@livellosegreto.it considering Chromium is a Google project made by mostly by Google, i dont think some downstream can really influence them at all
@tragivictoria @jon @ed Well Jon think they can
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@jon This browser has been eluding me for a long time, idk why. 🥲
Why do people choose Vivaldi?
@sesav because its awesome! (Switched from Opera back in the day, never looked back) - keeps adding useful/usable features which FF + Chrome then add later ..
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@jon "While other browsers add AI summarization and Edge pushes Copilot integration, Vivaldi 7.8 ships features users have actually requested"
🧑🍳💋
that's so delicious 😋
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@jon recently switched and quite happy with everything so far.
A point I haven't seen others make is the first start-up experience: Optional account; letting me know about the feed reader, calendar .etc without pushing it; customization with a couple suggested themes and tab placement without being overwhelming...
Plus you can just x out at any point and use the thing. It was a really good experience!
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@jon That is a really awesome release and proves one more time, we are on the right browser!
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@jon somehow, that blog post sounds AI-written
@ariarhythmic @jon It might or might not be, but this is effectively a technical product promotion blog, and those already sounded like this. A lot of the hallmark AI writing red flags are things that were already very commonplace in product announcements and technical memos: bullet-points, fluffing the reader, an overly-optimistic tone, em-dashes (a sad casualty of LLMs now—em dashes existed before LLMs and I won't give them up), "Not only X but Y", etc.
For what it's worth, I see plenty of things that indicate that this is probably not AI-written. There are a couple sentence fragments where an LLM would probably have elected to use a comma or semicolon, like this one: "Compare prices, monitor live data, reference documentation, all without breaking flow. Whilst Chrome and Edge’s split-screen is locked to two tabs. Vivaldi supports unlimited, flexible grid layouts." I'm pretty sure it's not LLM-generated.
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@jon A little surprising that you're taking potshots at browser AI features and didn't throw any shade at Firefox. I'm still a Firefox user, but they probably deserve a little bit of shame for their latest decisions.
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@jon liking the easy window tiling in this version!
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@ed , I think moving away from Chromium is not an option at this time. Having made a browser from scratch before, Opera, I know what it takes to build a browser from scratch and there is a reason companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft have not done it.
I think there is great value in us growing and being able to contribute more to the Chromium project. I think that can make a significant difference.
@jon I still wish there were a way to break away from Chromium.
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@jon I still wish there were a way to break away from Chromium.
Here is the thing. Chromium came out of Webkit. Webkit came out of KHTML. A strong Vivaldi can influence Chromium, I am sure about that. I think that is a more realistic route at this time and I hope people will support us on this route.
At Opera we had 100 working on Presto. 100 people with experience and skills. I believe Opera should have added about 10 to that team yearly to stay competitive. Instead they killed it. This was the best codebase at that time as it was all written from scratch and optimized. Building something like that today is just not going to be easy and that is something we do not have resources to do as it would require a much larger team today and it would take a long time to do. Instead we can gradually have team members work on Chromium and get our stuff into that codebase.
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Here is the thing. Chromium came out of Webkit. Webkit came out of KHTML. A strong Vivaldi can influence Chromium, I am sure about that. I think that is a more realistic route at this time and I hope people will support us on this route.
At Opera we had 100 working on Presto. 100 people with experience and skills. I believe Opera should have added about 10 to that team yearly to stay competitive. Instead they killed it. This was the best codebase at that time as it was all written from scratch and optimized. Building something like that today is just not going to be easy and that is something we do not have resources to do as it would require a much larger team today and it would take a long time to do. Instead we can gradually have team members work on Chromium and get our stuff into that codebase.
@jon Well, I hope you take over Chromium. We can let you sail the ship.
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Here is the thing. Chromium came out of Webkit. Webkit came out of KHTML. A strong Vivaldi can influence Chromium, I am sure about that. I think that is a more realistic route at this time and I hope people will support us on this route.
At Opera we had 100 working on Presto. 100 people with experience and skills. I believe Opera should have added about 10 to that team yearly to stay competitive. Instead they killed it. This was the best codebase at that time as it was all written from scratch and optimized. Building something like that today is just not going to be easy and that is something we do not have resources to do as it would require a much larger team today and it would take a long time to do. Instead we can gradually have team members work on Chromium and get our stuff into that codebase.
@jon Is it possible to remove all traces of Google from Vivaldi?
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I guess you have to ask our users, but I believe there are a number of reasons users choose us:
1. Features. Just a lot of useful features. Workspaces, tab stacks, tab tiles and a lot of flexibility in the UI.
2. Privacy. Built in tracker and ad blocker and a stand against the surveillance economy.
3. No integrated AI.
4. No Crypto currencies.
5. Made in Europe. Headquarters in Norway, team and servers in Iceland and developers in Norway and Iceland and a few in other European countries.
I am an (almost always) happy user of Vivaldi. I work online a lot and intensively, and Vivaldi is incredibly powerful and efficient once you get to grips with it.
This browser is actually a complete office suite—and I am still a long way from using **all** the features it offers.And yes—I'm quite adept at AI, but please refrain from adding unsolicited services to my suite of tools.
When I utilize AI, it will only be when I initiate it myself.In my opinion, Vivaldi is almost perfect. Except, of course, for scrolling across a vertical tab list. The resulting website tempest is not for epileptics!
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@stefano on a complety different topic, Time Capsule was based on netbsd(if I remember well). It saved my life, but wasn’t great hardware-wise (mine was dead, I guess that was a dc conversion pb, but never tried to fix the board), and the old sharing technology AFP was not great for over the wlan mounts. The same (dedicated hw with zfs and smb) would rock nowadays.
Oh wait, an Italian guy did write somethin’ on the topic…
true info: I would love apple to get back in the timecaspule/airport technology, simplicity-wise it was great. At this time user experience was the core of Apple. I miss these days.
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@Gina @quintessence @_elena yes! Fedifriends will unite again in person! 🫶🏻
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CECOT --> ICEcots
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Xiaomi ha praticamente completato la distribuzione del suo nuovo sistema operativo HyperOS 3, raggiungendo il 95% dei dispositivi supportati, con l`ultima fase prevista entro la fine di febbraio 2026. Partito a fine agosto 2025, questo aggiornamento ha già coperto la stragrande maggioranza dei modelli, lasciando solo alcuni dispositivi entry-level e varianti regionali in attesa della notifica OTA.
Secondo la roadmap interna di Xiaomi, l`intero rollout di HyperOS 3 si chiuderà entro la fine di febbraio, preparando il terreno per l`arrivo di HyperOS 3.1. Il motivo è tecnico e cruciale: le due versioni presentano differenze nella struttura del kernel, che potrebbero causare problemi di gestione delle versioni e compatibilità API se distribuite in parallelo. Xiaomi vuole quindi liberare la banda OTA e ottimizzare l`ambiente di sistema, evitando conflitti che comprometterebbero la stabilità per gli utenti.
Tra i modelli che riceveranno l`ultimo batch di HyperOS 3 spiccano nella serie Xiaomi il fidato 13T, mentre per i Redmi abbiamo il Note 15 Pro 4G, il Redmi 14R, le varianti 5G e 4G del Redmi 15 e del Redmi 15C, oltre al Redmi A4. Non mancano sorprese nella gamma POCO, con il POCO C85 nelle versioni 4G e 5G, il POCO C75 5G, il POCO M7 5G e il POCO M7 Plus. Per i tablet, infine, il Redmi Pad Pro con supporto 5G e il POCO Pad completeranno il quadro. Ricordate che in mercati come Cina e India alcuni di questi potrebbero già aver ricevuto l`update in anticipo, mentre le versioni globali e EEA sono in coda per le prossime settimane.
Già sui top di gamma come Xiaomi 14T e 14 Ultra, la versione stabile di HyperOS 3 è disponibile e rodandosi alla grande, con prestazioni fluide e ottimizzazioni che ne fanno un`evoluzione netta rispetto al passato. Una volta uniformata l`intera lineup su questa base, Xiaomi potrà accelerare su HyperOS 3.1, che promette nuove feature, ritocchi all`interfaccia e un maggiore focus sull`integrazione con ecosistemi esterni. Per chi possiede uno di questi modelli in lista, vale la pena controllare manualmente le impostazioni per anticipare la notifica: l`aggiornamento porta non solo refresh grafici, ma anche miglioramenti nella gestione energetica e nella sicurezza, essenziali per dispositivi di fascia media e bassa che vivono di questi boost software.
In un panorama Android dove gli update tempestivi fanno la differenza, Xiaomi sta dimostrando una strategia aggressiva, superando persino le aspettative iniziali di marzo per concentrarsi sul futuro. Se state valutando un acquisto o un upgrade, questi dettagli vi aiutano a pianificare: HyperOS 3 chiuderà il cerchio, aprendo le porte a 3.1 su un parco macchine solido e pronto per Android 16 sotto il cofano.
Questa discussione è aperta anche su Feddit in @Androidiani
Vuoi discutere di questa funzione o condividere altre anticipazioni? Unisciti alla conversazione nella nostra community. La discussione sul forum è in categoria: @xiaomi.
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@atarifrosch I agree, but sometimes they don’t really know.
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@apodoxus sorry I still have a boring black one 😅 but there are some good ones out there (at least more than pc cases)
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@andypiper I know!! 🥲 There were so many people that I wanted to see and then we ended up missing each other. Same with @quintessence and @_elena :'(
But surely we'll see other at another conference again some day!
