@deadsuperhero so, it's a two-sided market -- clients and servers. The traditional mechanism is a "ratchet" -- build up one side, then build up the other, and then build up the first.
So, yes, servers first, then clients, then more servers, more clients, and so on back and forth.
A working group might be able to come up with other, non-software strategies for dealing with this shit. Perhaps relying on new features in the software that don't actually ID anyone but could attach the status of having BEEN IDed or just let in and I'll take responsibility.
But it takes actually thinking about and studying a problem to come up with answers like that. You can't just shove your head up your ass and then yell at it.
@nitrml@fbinin@ret@mellifluousbox Should be noted that if we all actually did manage to get sentenced to prison we'd either break the system or end up in warehouses in the desert surrounded by overheated assholes in cammo.
@mellifluousbox It has to be thought about. Sometime soon people may have to decide if they're going to implement age verification or shut down their servers. If they're to be provided any answers, be they implemented options or a documented reason why this is just done, then the effort to come up with them needs to start before they're needed.
@nitrml how do you think they’ll implement age verification on mastodon dot social? Special fork? No. It’ll be baked into the software, which will create a precedent for this to be implemented everywhere.
@gbargoud they’re free to make their own decisions about whether they comply or not. The instance I’m using right now is in violation of UK law. Probably Saudi law, Iranian law, Chinese law, etc etc… there’s no winning this.
Hello #SFSCon Tomorrow @samvie and I will convene a workshop on advocating for the social web. This will run alongside the #Fediverse track, organised by @fediforum.We'll be at the Sheraton hotel, close to the conference venue from 10-15:30, with a break from 10:40 to 13:00.Come and join us to discuss how we bring the social web to everyone!
I love the excitement for new #ActivityPub based projects. Maybe i'm wrong but 'loops will do for the fediverse what the iPhone did for smartphones' seems a bit out of touch.Nothing wrong with being excited, but seeing how few people know of or care about Pixelfed still outside of Mastodon users who many have bailed for Bluesky, I think maybe, just maybe, the fedi is a hopeful echo chamber in a bubble sometimes. #Reality #Fediverse #Mastodon #Loops #Pixelfed #TikTok #Instagram
@feyter ohh boy... IMHOI believe I am a game developer. Even though my games are barely games and I have sold $0.I am also a hobby game developer, because I am not selling anything and I just want to make something.A profesional game developer is someone that can/has gotten hired to develop games.An indie games developer used to mean something but can now mean almost anything.A solo games developer is a rockstar fullstack genius that does entire games, except the parts they cant do.🤭