PieFed 1.6 is released - pronouns, private communities, quote posts and much more
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I couldn't think of a way to federate privately, when we don't know which software is at the other end. In the current political environment there are going to be groups of people who simply can't take the risk.
For example with mastodon's followers-only notes - that only gives some privacy because there is massive social pressure on any fedi implementation that doesn't follow the gentleman's agreement we have to hide those notes. That fails when implementations have bugs, are under the control of ICE, or whatever.
It's tricky! Happy to bounce ideas around on it sometime. Maybe encryption...
probably a whitelist of instances (by hostname) is the only way? each community has its own whitelist set by its mods?
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Great updates, especially the pronouns!
Downvotes can be turned off completely in a community, not just instance-wide
@snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr as you requested a while ago
Merci, parfait ! i will desactivate downvote in most of my communities. I hate downvote with a deep passion. :)
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A big thank you to those who contributed to making this release, translating, writing documentation, providing emotional support and promoting PieFed! None of this would happen without you all.
New hotness
- Pronouns - when you put pronouns into Extra Fields on your profile that is used as a flair in all communities where you haven't set a flair yet
- Private communities - no federation, only certain roles (depends on the community) can invite new people. Posts inside are only visible to members.
- Mastodon can now quote-boost PieFed posts
- Plain http web UI (no SSL required) with SSL used during federation - see http://retro.piefed.com
- Downvotes can be turned off completely in a community, not just instance-wide
- Admins can sticky a post on the home page, not just mods in their communities
- Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author (only works in PieFed communities due to a ActivityPub limitation)
- On home page when showing number of replies a post has, calculate the sum of the replies on all cross-posts and display that
- New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
More good stuff
- Improve emoji federation compatibility
- Change order of emoji in picker to present most-used ones first
- Daily time limit on usage to help people use PieFed less (released in 1.5.2)
- A way to report posts that need to be tagged as AI generated
- Better accessibility
- Improved handling of bold and italics in markdown parsing
- Don't accept votes from people the author has blocked
- Admins can resend email address verification email
- Admins can add notes to instances to keep track of defederation reasons, etc
- Search form has been simplified
- Option for admins to disable the em-dash detector
- Multiple minor bugfixes and security enhancements
To upgrade from 1.5.x
git pull git checkout v1.6.xAt this point you might see an error message about a merge conflict with compose.yaml. To preserve your custom compose.yaml you will need to copy it somewhere else, then
git checkout compose.yamlthengit pullagain. This time the pull will succeed so after that copy your custom compose.yaml it back, overwriting the one from git.Then,
./deploy.sh or ./deploy-docker.shIf you had to do the compose.yaml fix up earlier then you might want to compare what you have with https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/compose.yaml and manually copy and paste some improvements in particular the
command:part of the db container which tunes postgresql for performance. Adjust the numbers for your system.This time the database migrations will not take long.
Donations
PieFed is free and open-source software while operating without any advertising, monetization, or reliance on venture capital. Your donations are vital in supporting the PieFed development effort, allowing us to expand and enhance PieFed with new features.
New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
Alts Georg is an outlier and should not be included in the average alts per users figure
Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author
I don't really understand this. So if I block Timmy@instance.net and then he replies to My posts on piefed.social, piefed.social will delete his comments? But instance.net won't?
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Yes. The intended use-case is something like a community group that runs their own instance, or an admin team coordinating among themselves. Those people are going to be on the same instance.
This will be really useful for the soulist credit card number sharing group! /funny
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I woul really prefer people I block to not see my stuff as if they blocked me so that they could not vote. I don't block people needlessly but if I do I sorta want them out of my federated life.
Back when I was involved in sapphic partner abuse drama on Twitter, you could block someone but still reply to their posts, so you could put DARVO under all of their posts and they wouldn't be able to see it or respond to it or report it.
So NO THANK YOU to being able to block someone and hide your posts from them. Abusers would abuse it so bad.
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Odd, I can only see the pinned posts when signed in @rimu@piefed.social
Right now we have two pinned posts, one from lemmy.ca and one from a local only piefed.ca community. Both show up nicely when signed in, neither show up when signed out
The pinned posts still obey some of the visibility rules of any other post. So, in this case, piefed.ca has
Popularas the default sort on the instance. That means that the community that is home to those posts must have thePosts can be popularbox checked in the admin settings for that community:
I can't confirm that this is the issue, but I was able to confirm with a dev instance that local-pinned posts do show up for anonymous users using the popular sort when that box is checked and don't when it is unchecked.
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probably a whitelist of instances (by hostname) is the only way? each community has its own whitelist set by its mods?
DNS is not trustworthy enough, you’ll probably need something like a public / private key pair for each server to verify each other.
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The pinned posts still obey some of the visibility rules of any other post. So, in this case, piefed.ca has
Popularas the default sort on the instance. That means that the community that is home to those posts must have thePosts can be popularbox checked in the admin settings for that community:I can't confirm that this is the issue, but I was able to confirm with a dev instance that local-pinned posts do show up for anonymous users using the popular sort when that box is checked and don't when it is unchecked.
It could be, where would I find that setting? I didn't see it in the community settings.
I do see the "popular" column is ticked on
admin/communitiesfor those communities, but I don't see a page that has something like your screenshot -
A big thank you to those who contributed to making this release, translating, writing documentation, providing emotional support and promoting PieFed! None of this would happen without you all.
New hotness
- Pronouns - when you put pronouns into Extra Fields on your profile that is used as a flair in all communities where you haven't set a flair yet
- Private communities - no federation, only certain roles (depends on the community) can invite new people. Posts inside are only visible to members.
- Mastodon can now quote-boost PieFed posts
- Plain http web UI (no SSL required) with SSL used during federation - see http://retro.piefed.com
- Downvotes can be turned off completely in a community, not just instance-wide
- Admins can sticky a post on the home page, not just mods in their communities
- Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author (only works in PieFed communities due to a ActivityPub limitation)
- On home page when showing number of replies a post has, calculate the sum of the replies on all cross-posts and display that
- New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
More good stuff
- Improve emoji federation compatibility
- Change order of emoji in picker to present most-used ones first
- Daily time limit on usage to help people use PieFed less (released in 1.5.2)
- A way to report posts that need to be tagged as AI generated
- Better accessibility
- Improved handling of bold and italics in markdown parsing
- Don't accept votes from people the author has blocked
- Admins can resend email address verification email
- Admins can add notes to instances to keep track of defederation reasons, etc
- Search form has been simplified
- Option for admins to disable the em-dash detector
- Multiple minor bugfixes and security enhancements
To upgrade from 1.5.x
git pull git checkout v1.6.xAt this point you might see an error message about a merge conflict with compose.yaml. To preserve your custom compose.yaml you will need to copy it somewhere else, then
git checkout compose.yamlthengit pullagain. This time the pull will succeed so after that copy your custom compose.yaml it back, overwriting the one from git.Then,
./deploy.sh or ./deploy-docker.shIf you had to do the compose.yaml fix up earlier then you might want to compare what you have with https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/compose.yaml and manually copy and paste some improvements in particular the
command:part of the db container which tunes postgresql for performance. Adjust the numbers for your system.This time the database migrations will not take long.
Donations
PieFed is free and open-source software while operating without any advertising, monetization, or reliance on venture capital. Your donations are vital in supporting the PieFed development effort, allowing us to expand and enhance PieFed with new features.
Thank you so much for your great work!
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A big thank you to those who contributed to making this release, translating, writing documentation, providing emotional support and promoting PieFed! None of this would happen without you all.
New hotness
- Pronouns - when you put pronouns into Extra Fields on your profile that is used as a flair in all communities where you haven't set a flair yet
- Private communities - no federation, only certain roles (depends on the community) can invite new people. Posts inside are only visible to members.
- Mastodon can now quote-boost PieFed posts
- Plain http web UI (no SSL required) with SSL used during federation - see http://retro.piefed.com
- Downvotes can be turned off completely in a community, not just instance-wide
- Admins can sticky a post on the home page, not just mods in their communities
- Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author (only works in PieFed communities due to a ActivityPub limitation)
- On home page when showing number of replies a post has, calculate the sum of the replies on all cross-posts and display that
- New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
More good stuff
- Improve emoji federation compatibility
- Change order of emoji in picker to present most-used ones first
- Daily time limit on usage to help people use PieFed less (released in 1.5.2)
- A way to report posts that need to be tagged as AI generated
- Better accessibility
- Improved handling of bold and italics in markdown parsing
- Don't accept votes from people the author has blocked
- Admins can resend email address verification email
- Admins can add notes to instances to keep track of defederation reasons, etc
- Search form has been simplified
- Option for admins to disable the em-dash detector
- Multiple minor bugfixes and security enhancements
To upgrade from 1.5.x
git pull git checkout v1.6.xAt this point you might see an error message about a merge conflict with compose.yaml. To preserve your custom compose.yaml you will need to copy it somewhere else, then
git checkout compose.yamlthengit pullagain. This time the pull will succeed so after that copy your custom compose.yaml it back, overwriting the one from git.Then,
./deploy.sh or ./deploy-docker.shIf you had to do the compose.yaml fix up earlier then you might want to compare what you have with https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/compose.yaml and manually copy and paste some improvements in particular the
command:part of the db container which tunes postgresql for performance. Adjust the numbers for your system.This time the database migrations will not take long.
Donations
PieFed is free and open-source software while operating without any advertising, monetization, or reliance on venture capital. Your donations are vital in supporting the PieFed development effort, allowing us to expand and enhance PieFed with new features.
I don't understand what the purpose of the plain http is, can anybody explain to me please?
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New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
Alts Georg is an outlier and should not be included in the average alts per users figure
Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author
I don't really understand this. So if I block Timmy@instance.net and then he replies to My posts on piefed.social, piefed.social will delete his comments? But instance.net won't?
I don’t really understand this. So if I block Timmy@instance.net and then he replies to My posts on piefed.social, piefed.social will delete his comments? But instance.net won’t?
No. It means future comments by the blocked user would be deleted. This only matters when coming from Lemmy instances as on Piefed, a user being blocked disables that user from responding.
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A big thank you to those who contributed to making this release, translating, writing documentation, providing emotional support and promoting PieFed! None of this would happen without you all.
New hotness
- Pronouns - when you put pronouns into Extra Fields on your profile that is used as a flair in all communities where you haven't set a flair yet
- Private communities - no federation, only certain roles (depends on the community) can invite new people. Posts inside are only visible to members.
- Mastodon can now quote-boost PieFed posts
- Plain http web UI (no SSL required) with SSL used during federation - see http://retro.piefed.com
- Downvotes can be turned off completely in a community, not just instance-wide
- Admins can sticky a post on the home page, not just mods in their communities
- Auto-delete of replies on remote instances when reply author has been blocked by parent content author (only works in PieFed communities due to a ActivityPub limitation)
- On home page when showing number of replies a post has, calculate the sum of the replies on all cross-posts and display that
- New users can only do 3 posts in their first 24h, to reduce floods of posts by that guy who keeps deleting his accounts and making new ones
More good stuff
- Improve emoji federation compatibility
- Change order of emoji in picker to present most-used ones first
- Daily time limit on usage to help people use PieFed less (released in 1.5.2)
- A way to report posts that need to be tagged as AI generated
- Better accessibility
- Improved handling of bold and italics in markdown parsing
- Don't accept votes from people the author has blocked
- Admins can resend email address verification email
- Admins can add notes to instances to keep track of defederation reasons, etc
- Search form has been simplified
- Option for admins to disable the em-dash detector
- Multiple minor bugfixes and security enhancements
To upgrade from 1.5.x
git pull git checkout v1.6.xAt this point you might see an error message about a merge conflict with compose.yaml. To preserve your custom compose.yaml you will need to copy it somewhere else, then
git checkout compose.yamlthengit pullagain. This time the pull will succeed so after that copy your custom compose.yaml it back, overwriting the one from git.Then,
./deploy.sh or ./deploy-docker.shIf you had to do the compose.yaml fix up earlier then you might want to compare what you have with https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/compose.yaml and manually copy and paste some improvements in particular the
command:part of the db container which tunes postgresql for performance. Adjust the numbers for your system.This time the database migrations will not take long.
Donations
PieFed is free and open-source software while operating without any advertising, monetization, or reliance on venture capital. Your donations are vital in supporting the PieFed development effort, allowing us to expand and enhance PieFed with new features.
I don't know how you do, so much so often. Thank you for everything Rimu and other PieFed dev's who names I haven't memorised!
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I don’t really understand this. So if I block Timmy@instance.net and then he replies to My posts on piefed.social, piefed.social will delete his comments? But instance.net won’t?
No. It means future comments by the blocked user would be deleted. This only matters when coming from Lemmy instances as on Piefed, a user being blocked disables that user from responding.
I still don't understand
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I still don't understand
It means that if you were to block a user replying to you from a Lemmy instance, any further replies they make to you in any thread would be automatically thrown out by Piefed.
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It means that if you were to block a user replying to you from a Lemmy instance, any further replies they make to you in any thread would be automatically thrown out by Piefed.
@skavau@piefed.social said in PieFed 1.6 is released - pronouns, private communities, quote posts and much more:
> any further replies they make to you in any thread would be automatically thrown out by Piefed.Padme: "for just you, right?"
Anakin:
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It means that if you were to block a user replying to you from a Lemmy instance, any further replies they make to you in any thread would be automatically thrown out by Piefed.
Oh, so if Timmy is a Lemmy user and blocks Me, and I reply to Timmy's posts on piefed.social, piefed.social deletes My comments?
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Oh, so if Timmy is a Lemmy user and blocks Me, and I reply to Timmy's posts on piefed.social, piefed.social deletes My comments?
Yes, and for other piefed instances. It is due to underlying differences in how rimu interprets how blocking should work vs. Lemmy
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Yes. The intended use-case is something like a community group that runs their own instance, or an admin team coordinating among themselves. Those people are going to be on the same instance.
At least in our case we're divided about 50/50 between Lemmy and PieFed. I could force people to PieFed by deleting Lemmy, but that wouldn't be nice 😀
Private federation would be incredible but I've already heard you say it would be a large amount of work, so I'm not holding my breath!
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Yes, and for other piefed instances. It is due to underlying differences in how rimu interprets how blocking should work vs. Lemmy
That's awesome! That means Piefed users can't follow a person around putting the same reply under all their posts. I wrote about that problem on My blog!
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Back when I was involved in sapphic partner abuse drama on Twitter, you could block someone but still reply to their posts, so you could put DARVO under all of their posts and they wouldn't be able to see it or respond to it or report it.
So NO THANK YOU to being able to block someone and hide your posts from them. Abusers would abuse it so bad.
I don't have enough background to understand what putting darvo would mean under posts but since its reportable I would assume its bad. I don't see how they could do this though because by blocking someone they would not be able to see their post or replies to put a reply under.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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https://discuss.tchncs.de/u/devtoolkit_api https://lemmy.world/u/albert_inkman https://feddit.org/u/arnoldnakamura ~~https://lemmy.world/u/james_bond1 ~~ https://lemmy.world/u/epstein_bot https://lemmy.world/u/humanobserver https://lemmy.world/u/cyberb https://thelemmy.club/u/insightseeker
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@povoq@slrpnk.net okay, yes. This is true, once it leaves the local server there are no guarantees.
However I'd have to ask whether there is an acceptable tradeoff in risk of content exposure.
After all, even in local private groups, things could get leaked via copy-paste, screenshots, etc. The weakest link is the social element.
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At a guess, private piefed communities don't federate because once content federates, you can't control who can see it. All you can do is hope that the remote instance will follow the privacy settings, but you can't enforce them.
Private lemmy communities don't federate because they don't exist.
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Because once it leaves the server there is no guarantee that the remote server understands or even respects the notion that it should be private.
Lemmy doesn't have private communities yet afaik.
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Is that different for Lemmy? If so, why is PieFed's approach to private communities different from Lemmy's?
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Ah true! NodeBB doesn't support emoji reactions yet.
Thanks for reminding me of yet another way we're behind Piefed :muscle:
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Emoji reactions are a big one - rather than voting you can apply an emoji, which is a much richer expression.
Every community can have different settings for who can downvote. Here are the options:
If you downvote more than you upvote, pretty soon you can't downvote anymore.
