Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@aprilfollies @lynfox

and protests are great, when they are nonviolent

when they are violent, popular sentiment turns against you

[macacator@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @lynfox they shot and killed a white woman in the streets and all everybody did was protest. Then Gestapo started going door to door selling bullets and handcuffs, with a possible 2k additional bootlickers joining in. News flash, protest no longer works in this country, people need to get angrier. Gestapo has no fear. They don't. They'll catch you anywhere and they know you won't fight back.

[krajcitom@universeodon.com]

@benroyce When will the General Strike begin?

https://generalstrikeus.com/

#Politics #USpol #Trump #MAGA #Fascism #Venezuela #Strike #GeneralStrike #Greenland #law #DueProcess #ExcessiveForce #UseOfForce #PoliceBrutality #Constitution #CivilRights #HumanRights #AbuseOfPower #ICE #CBP #Minneapolis #FIFA #USA

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

but what is the point of this comment in your mind

because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

the only effect is you are helping trump

[nmba@mstdn.ca]

@skedarwarrior @benroyce
Non-maga USians are still welcome because every dollar you spend outside the USA benefits the country you are visiting and removes a dollar from the US economy. Ideally you drop many dollars during your visit. This will change though if US forces invade a former ally.

[dukeduke@mastodon.social]

@benroyce Four years ago, I boycotted the World Cup, due to FIFA's corrupt decision to hold it in a shithole country controlled by an evil regime. Nothing's changed in 2026.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@lynfox @bazcook @ikuturso

right but we can still vote and elect dems to control congress and freeze his agenda

this whole sentiment "the usa is already nazi germany" is self-defeating: you want trump to lose, right? so why act like he already won everything? trump is not untouchable. why act like he is? do you want to help trump? i don't think so, but that's what your words are doing because you're presenting a fallacious rationale that voting doesn't matter anymore. it still matters

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@macacator @lynfox

and fucking vote

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@MrTulip

that's assuming usa is already full blown nazi germany

it's bad but it isn't that yet, so you can vote, and can make a difference

this rationale your presenting is saying a vote is useless. so people don't vote. so trump wins

so you're helping trump

do you want to help trump?

i don't think so, but that's what you're doing

so don't do it. don't present this "everything is already full blown fascism" fallacy. it doesn't help

[macacator@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @lynfox voting is the starting point.

[radioclash@retro.pizza]

@benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@macacator @lynfox

right, voting isn't all you do. it's just a tool in your tool chest. the other tools need using too

[macacator@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @lynfox Nepal showed us the tool set needed to change things.

[pascaline@mastodon.nl]

@hamishtpb

AMEN, Hamish!
Wow, this is all so delicious.

@benroyce

[macacator@mastodon.social]

@bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox @benroyce Nepal showed us the way to democracy, Americans just need to be willing to do it.

[bazcook@mas.to]

@benroyce @ikuturso @lynfox - much of the problem is that states *do* run the national elections. In many countries, the vote is handled by an arms-length federal agency. They set electoral borders (not just the state / provincial borders, but ensuring roughly the same number of voters are in each jurisdiction) and they are responsible for the count procedures. US states have a tendency to invent electoral borders to suit their Party of choice. And then there's your Electoral College...

[fourt4@mastodonapp.uk]

@benroyce solution: bully the participating nations using diplomatic and commercial levers, until they conscript fans to go.

[epilonious@toot.lgbt]

@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.

That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.

The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.

[paulatothepeople@climatejustice.social]

@benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".

[pascaline@mastodon.nl]

@radioclash

It's completely crazy.

That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.

Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!

@benroyce