Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs As someone who struggles with doing things on a schedule, IMO there's a sub-type of the second - the tasks that need to be done some amount of time after they were *last* done, whether or not that actually matched the schedule. I want to push a button to indicate that the sheets have in fact been changed, and the next reminder should be X weeks after that date, not end up at odds with the calender because they actually got changed 3 days after the reminder and the skew just keeps accumulating. I don't think I've ever seen this option in any scheduling software.
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@funz @afewbugs @nextcloud The feature request for repeating tasks can be found here:
https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34You can upvote it and leave your feedback.
@viktor @afewbugs @nextcloud
thanks for your answer.
couldn't do that because I don't have a account at MS github 🤷♂️ -
Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.
Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)
@vfrmedia @emily_s @afewbugs If you compare to a client for the Exchange Server, you should compare with a client for Nextcloud. There is no UI for the underlaying Exchange Server. Therefore you should compare to a client like Thunderbird. There is no problem with recurring taskes generated in Thunderbird. They are syncronized with Nextcloud and other clients. Even the Tasks app for Android is capable generating recurring tasks. It is "just" Nextcloud's web UI which does not support it.
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@vfrmedia @emily_s @afewbugs If you compare to a client for the Exchange Server, you should compare with a client for Nextcloud. There is no UI for the underlaying Exchange Server. Therefore you should compare to a client like Thunderbird. There is no problem with recurring taskes generated in Thunderbird. They are syncronized with Nextcloud and other clients. Even the Tasks app for Android is capable generating recurring tasks. It is "just" Nextcloud's web UI which does not support it.
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
@afewbugs The question is not just the implementation: If you mark a task as done or set the progress, what do you expect with recurring tasks? Reset to zero? Should the already started task be thrown away/removed and started from scratch? How to handle updates of other data?
Just my 50ct. PS: I am considering starting an app that might fit your need but this is a different story. -
@afewbugs The question is not just the implementation: If you mark a task as done or set the progress, what do you expect with recurring tasks? Reset to zero? Should the already started task be thrown away/removed and started from scratch? How to handle updates of other data?
Just my 50ct. PS: I am considering starting an app that might fit your need but this is a different story.@christianlupus From my perspective the way Todoist does it works very well, you mark the task as completed and it reappears the next day/in whatever interval you set it to reappear
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@afewbugs As someone who struggles with doing things on a schedule, IMO there's a sub-type of the second - the tasks that need to be done some amount of time after they were *last* done, whether or not that actually matched the schedule. I want to push a button to indicate that the sheets have in fact been changed, and the next reminder should be X weeks after that date, not end up at odds with the calender because they actually got changed 3 days after the reminder and the skew just keeps accumulating. I don't think I've ever seen this option in any scheduling software.
@orman Todoist, which I'm currently using, has this option (I was looking at NextCloud because I use it for files and was wondering if I could move my task management over ther etoo) https://www.todoist.com/help/articles/introduction-to-recurring-dates-YUYVJJAV
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@afewbugs @nextcloud
I do track recurring task in my task manager. But they are not chores.My recurring tasks are of nature where I have to make certain payments every month/quarter, or renew domain every x years etc.
I do the chores daily, and adding them to task manager is more hassle than worth it IMO
(After writing such a long reply, now I'm wondering whether OP meant this as a joke 🤷♂️)
@mandarvaze It's not a joke. There are some chores I can't keep track of without reminders, when you can't see whether the thing needs doing or has been done (giving someone meds or taking them yourself for example) is something I find helpful to mark off, or things that don't happen every day (change the sheets every seven days, send the meter reading the first working day of the month)
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@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
@afewbugs @ljrk my S/O uses Todoist **extensively** and I must say I understand why she picked it. We're both selfhosters and avid FLOSS users, but there's nothing quite like Todoist.
Also: yes, recurring tasks and mental load. As a divorced dad (and single for a long time), +9000 on your original thread and points wrt gender. Life handed me firsthand learning experiences (massive understatement) on that topic.
Also: lists! Tasks and lists!
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@afewbugs does it work with the android nextcloud app ?
Also, if it doesn't do what you want, I believe the idea is you can file a bug report on GitHub, and then be told you're doing it all wrong... Or something, cos open source.
@quixoticgeek @afewbugs I often take the advance in the ticket "I am sure I do something wrong, as I am unable to create a recurring task" 😂
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
https://donetick.com/ is self-hostable and very specifically aimed at managing housework. Also US-based though
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@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I currently use Vikunja, which absolutely has recurring tasks, but is a bit limited mobile app wise.
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@kate @afewbugs if it helps you can create a recurring task in jtx Board and set it up as you wish. You can then click on "detach all instances", this would take all recurrences and make standalone entries out of them. These entries should then also show up in Nextcloud. However, keep in mind that the series is gone and you can't update all instances in one go anymore.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs i'm pretty sure: yes
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https://donetick.com/ is self-hostable and very specifically aimed at managing housework. Also US-based though
@qwwerty @afewbugs looks like it can be self-hosted: https://github.com/donetick/donetick
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
@afewbugs relatedly, I'm pretty sure the people who design kitchen and bathroom fittings and furnishings have never cleaned a bathroom or kitchen, and don't do much cooking either
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@afewbugs relatedly, I'm pretty sure the people who design kitchen and bathroom fittings and furnishings have never cleaned a bathroom or kitchen, and don't do much cooking either
As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
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As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
@suearcher @kitten_tech my fun story about architecture is I used to work in a university building designed by a famous and award winning architect. It had a recessed light well in the roof with a glass skylight at the bottom. The problem was there was no outlet pipe at the bottom of the light well, so when it rained it filled up with water like a huge suspended swimming pool
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@suearcher @kitten_tech my fun story about architecture is I used to work in a university building designed by a famous and award winning architect. It had a recessed light well in the roof with a glass skylight at the bottom. The problem was there was no outlet pipe at the bottom of the light well, so when it rained it filled up with water like a huge suspended swimming pool
@suearcher @kitten_tech this was obviously a somewhat alarming state of affairs for those who had to work underneath it, trusting the strength of the glass, so it was drained and a sort of greenhouse like contraption built over the top to prevent it from refilling.
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@cstross @future_upbeat
Mostly but not entirely.
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@cstross
Also since cryogenic freezing a brain destroys the structure of an already dead brain (basically deteriotated), the folk paying for that are being scammed.I agree it's nice info for SF world building.
Presumably they'd have to replace the blood of a living mouse with a special fluid to preserve the structure?
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@cstross "the wiring is the computer" is not too surprising. Years ago playing w/ algorithms for FPGA, needed to invent a bit-string perfect hash table. One way of doing a perfect hash function/table involves a matrix and offset, H = Mx + v, but our math needed to be boolean (AND, XOR), a "1" coefficient was a wire, and if we wanted a one-cycle hash index, then we needed no more 1's in a row than maximum inputs to an FPGA XOR. So, a sparse boolean matrix. The wiring was the computation..
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@cstross Does that make your work Science Fact-ion instead of Science Fiction?
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The meeting with the insurance man went as I expected: kind, helpful, "we'll let you know".
We'll see.
In the meantime, I enjoyed a morning walk in a mild Ferrara, waiting for spring.
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I absolutely agree.
At best, what current LLMs are is evidence that linguistic processing follows statistically modelable rules.
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@cstross
Also shows that much "AI" terminology is marketing, not science. Computer "AI" doesn't have Neural Networks (it's a distributed dataflow database) nor "learning".I've suspected this result for decades.
"Uploading" human consciousness is still SF based on Transhumanism, which is a religion, not science.
I doubt it will yield anything for computer AI. Except current LLM based AI is a dead end.
