Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs Hi! I'm not a developer or anything of the kind, but I love to read unexpected gender perspectives. This one's brilliant. @nextcloud
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I can set recurring tasks on my Nextcloud calendar task list via 3rd party apps like Reminders on iOS or Evolution via CalDAV
I'm not sure if there's a way to do it through the web interface, if that's what you're asking though!
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
Gawd, the shit I got when I waded into a "discussion" on Instagram about how "men are so helpless and useless and they need to be given a LIST of chores before they will help" and I chimed in: "Actually I have ADHD and if my ex had given me a specific, detailed list instead of just telling me to 'look around and see what needs done' and then getting MAD that I didn't do what HE WANTED DONE maybe I wouldn't have this huge emotional trauma" and it turned into: "YOU'RE JUST ENABLING LAZY MEN AND GIVING THEM EXCUSES, ADHD ISN'T A GOOD EXCUSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN"… …um, no, not everyone does. And it's really fucking sexist to assume that WOMEN ESPECIALLY are "born with" this knowledge and skill set and little "habit tracker" already programmed in.
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See also: "But women naturally notice mess and dirt in a way men don't." No, women learn to notice because we're shamed for not noticing and keeping on top of things in a way men aren't. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0049124119852395
So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs This is the #1 most requested (liked) feature in all of Nextcloud: https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34
And there's even a monetary bounty, let's hope it's coming up soon! -
So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I applaud the larger point you’re making!
Quite prosaically, I’m using Reminders in Nextcloud Calendar for recurring tasks. Works very well for me.
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@afewbugs I applaud the larger point you’re making!
Quite prosaically, I’m using Reminders in Nextcloud Calendar for recurring tasks. Works very well for me.
@slothrop thank you. Yes that thread escalated rather dramatically didn't it😂
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So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
@afewbugs Absolutely stealing that question.
Who are the sustainers? And if they look at their feet and shuffle backwards while The Token Woman in the group gets shouldered forward I'm going to have questions.
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@afewbugs Absolutely stealing that question.
Who are the sustainers? And if they look at their feet and shuffle backwards while The Token Woman in the group gets shouldered forward I'm going to have questions.
@afeinman I don't know where it's from originally but I once saw it on a poster and though "Damn!"
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs looks at the local repair cafe and who runs the front desk and who runs the tea counter... Yep checks out
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@afewbugs I can set recurring tasks on my Nextcloud calendar task list via 3rd party apps like Reminders on iOS or Evolution via CalDAV
I'm not sure if there's a way to do it through the web interface, if that's what you're asking though!
you can't via nextcloud webapp, you have to use a CalDAV client with tasks support like @researchfairy said
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs @nextcloud I'm not entirely sure what nextcloud is? but I use todoist for my recurring tasks and it works perfectly, also telegram recently added the ability to schedule a recurring message, and as I also use telegram in my household for to do lists that has also been invaluable
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs Goodness, here's an issue from 2018 that *still open* https://github.com/nextcloud/deck/issues/480
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you can't via nextcloud webapp, you have to use a CalDAV client with tasks support like @researchfairy said
closest I can think of is using the Chores nextcloud webapp https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/chores
those can be recurring
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
I just checked on the latest NextCloud. Nope, no support for recurring tasks at all.
The Calendar, however, has support for repeating an event daily, weekly, multiple times a week, on a day of the month, or annually. And the notes field is about the equal of the Tasks description field.
It doesn't let you mark it as completed, though, or assign it to someone else.
Next I'll look in whatever they have for project management.
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Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
@afewbugs doing open source maintenance has kind of driven that in for me
(i'm quote-unquote lucky, i get to do some high-profile things too. but 95% of it is just sheer persistence at maintaining things nobody else wants to touch.)
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
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@slothrop thank you. Yes that thread escalated rather dramatically didn't it😂
@afewbugs well you do have a point!
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@afewbugs @nextcloud I'm not entirely sure what nextcloud is? but I use todoist for my recurring tasks and it works perfectly, also telegram recently added the ability to schedule a recurring message, and as I also use telegram in my household for to do lists that has also been invaluable
@wolfie thank you! I'm actually using Todoist at the moment, but looking into European alternatives wherever possible and as I'm already using NextCloud for file management I thought I'd take a look at their task manager and see if it was a workable alternative. Looks like it isn't though as probably at least half of what I use it for is recurring tasks
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@cstross @future_upbeat
Mostly but not entirely.
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@cstross
Also since cryogenic freezing a brain destroys the structure of an already dead brain (basically deteriotated), the folk paying for that are being scammed.I agree it's nice info for SF world building.
Presumably they'd have to replace the blood of a living mouse with a special fluid to preserve the structure?
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@cstross "the wiring is the computer" is not too surprising. Years ago playing w/ algorithms for FPGA, needed to invent a bit-string perfect hash table. One way of doing a perfect hash function/table involves a matrix and offset, H = Mx + v, but our math needed to be boolean (AND, XOR), a "1" coefficient was a wire, and if we wanted a one-cycle hash index, then we needed no more 1's in a row than maximum inputs to an FPGA XOR. So, a sparse boolean matrix. The wiring was the computation..
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@cstross Does that make your work Science Fact-ion instead of Science Fiction?
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The meeting with the insurance man went as I expected: kind, helpful, "we'll let you know".
We'll see.
In the meantime, I enjoyed a morning walk in a mild Ferrara, waiting for spring.
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I absolutely agree.
At best, what current LLMs are is evidence that linguistic processing follows statistically modelable rules.
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@cstross
Also shows that much "AI" terminology is marketing, not science. Computer "AI" doesn't have Neural Networks (it's a distributed dataflow database) nor "learning".I've suspected this result for decades.
"Uploading" human consciousness is still SF based on Transhumanism, which is a religion, not science.
I doubt it will yield anything for computer AI. Except current LLM based AI is a dead end.
