systemd lost the plot a long time ago.
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@nixCraft Please, just stop using the term "Unix philosophy" as a fetish. There's a ton of great software that does not follow it, and I've seen enough failing init scripts in my life to convince me that endlessly stringing tools together with pipes is not a robust way of writing software.
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systemd lost the plot a long time ago. they stopped following the Unix philosophy and now they're busy adding nonsense like age verification. Just like Firefox, systemd doesn't understand its core user base. There are plenty of distros without systemd
@nixCraft but now gnome and kde enforce systemd usage..
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@nixCraft it's not age verification it's just a birth date in the filesystem YOU define, no verification whatsoever. And the value is available on dbus. Up the the app developer to do something with it. Yes systemd has flaws, plural, its design is questionable. But right now it's just an excuse to bash it one more time. And so what, we go back to thousand lignes bash scripts ordered with numbers which can faim at any moment?
Sorry, but there is no logical reason for systemd to need details that specific and precise for any purpose other than age verification.
If it were for birthday lookups for 'well wishers', it would be held in the calendar app. If it were for parental control, it would be under that heading, and only as a toggle of yes/no, on access to XYZ.
To think that it has a place in sustemd at all leads to a question of why any PPI data is necessary in ANY subsystem. It's not.
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Sorry, but there is no logical reason for systemd to need details that specific and precise for any purpose other than age verification.
If it were for birthday lookups for 'well wishers', it would be held in the calendar app. If it were for parental control, it would be under that heading, and only as a toggle of yes/no, on access to XYZ.
To think that it has a place in sustemd at all leads to a question of why any PPI data is necessary in ANY subsystem. It's not.
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@nixCraft it's not age verification it's just a birth date in the filesystem YOU define, no verification whatsoever. And the value is available on dbus. Up the the app developer to do something with it. Yes systemd has flaws, plural, its design is questionable. But right now it's just an excuse to bash it one more time. And so what, we go back to thousand lignes bash scripts ordered with numbers which can faim at any moment?
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I appreciate that everyone, including all of us in this thread are actively looking and thinking about where things stand at this moment.
The facts are clear enough that it was preemptive and was most certainly _not_ a requirement forced by lawsuites or legal actions.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, unjust and unfit laws are overturned often, but I'll add that capitulation is not a fitting way to deal with privacy principals and personal freedoms.
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@nixCraft but now gnome and kde enforce systemd usage..
We're fucked. -
@nixCraft Please, just stop using the term "Unix philosophy" as a fetish. There's a ton of great software that does not follow it, and I've seen enough failing init scripts in my life to convince me that endlessly stringing tools together with pipes is not a robust way of writing software.
@hokid it's not like systemd is one big blob.
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@nixCraft it's not age verification it's just a birth date in the filesystem YOU define, no verification whatsoever. And the value is available on dbus. Up the the app developer to do something with it. Yes systemd has flaws, plural, its design is questionable. But right now it's just an excuse to bash it one more time. And so what, we go back to thousand lignes bash scripts ordered with numbers which can faim at any moment?