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@IngridHbn But why do you need to pick up a snail only to put it back in the direction it was heading?
Also the graphic shows the snail being turned around to face the other way.
@lydiaconwell @IngridHbn When it's crossing a street. We sometimes try to help them cross a street, or a path faster. Otherwise they could be run over by a car, or a biker, or a human could step on it.
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As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.@kupac @IngridHbn I'm skeptical of this as well. I've never seen a "torn mantle" on a snail, and I'm a biologist too.
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@IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!
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@lydiaconwell @IngridHbn When it's crossing a street. We sometimes try to help them cross a street, or a path faster. Otherwise they could be run over by a car, or a biker, or a human could step on it.
@SophiaFree Yes, move it on a bit. @IngridHbn
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@IngridHbn "Place in direction it was heading"
*places it in the other direction, still gets a green checkmark*
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@synfinatic ????? Do you really hurt animals intentionally?
@IngridHbn @synfinatic I did once capture a snail and imprison in inside an electric cage. I wanted to know how much voltage is required to make a line they will not cross but won't actually kill them.
Its three volts. That's all. Surprisingly low. Once I had that, easy enough to put some strips of copper tape around my lettuce and build the world's tiniest electric fence.
(Then the bloody leaf-miners ruined half of it instead.)
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@IngridHbn
As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.@kupac @IngridHbn The apparent high production cost of the image makes it appear trustworthy. Good illustrations, professional seeming graphic design. But I see other commenters pointing out it is likely AI generated based on the origin. It's often impossible to tell these days. Even the slop-slingers have access to models good enough pass a close inspection.
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@IngridHbn It's not he or her, snails are hermophrodites. They are male and female at the same time!
@troler yes someone told me already. I had forgotten.
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@irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn and this is how AI slop starts creeping into the fediverse
Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.
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@IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences
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@IngridHbn I am totally here for this content.
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@IngridHbn Source??? AI???
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@08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation
@IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.
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@IngridHbn
If you really want to hurt a snail, you may be able to break its mantle (never seen it actually happen), but the crack on the foot looks ridiculous.Tangential fun fact: snails intentionally stab each other during mating. Look up "love dart"!
@kupac @IngridHbn
So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then. -
@IngridHbn It's true that you can cause mantle collapse in a snail by picking it up too roughly, but this image itself is clearly AI slop.
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@IngridHbn
As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.@kupac @IngridHbn on the one hand this reply matches my experience, but on the other i've noticed a lot of normies are much, much more hasty and brutal with things who may benefit from this -
@ianrogers @IngridHbn it absolutely is AI generated. the original source is a facebook ai-generated "nature" page.
@irina thank you for the information. I unboosted it. That's why we should have always sources.
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@kupac @IngridHbn
So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.@petealexharris
But if you just suddenly lift them off the ground, they think they're flying *really fast*!
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@IngridHbn I feel bad for all the snails I've picked up the wrong way! I think they generally retracted, but still...
@DuncanMSussex If they didn't crash, it was all fine and correct! Not all snails "glue" so much to a road as this AI image suggests. 😉
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@IngridHbn it's AI, sorry if it's real advice but I can't be sure so I'm not trusting this image
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RE: https://mstdn.science/@badscientists/116142133523221963
In Germania non succederebbe
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@kiwiWolle thank you! 🥰
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@esilvia @ALFA
...comunque era l'anno dei miei 25 anni (1990) e credevo in questo imminente futuro europeo insieme.
Molto è cambiato, ma l'idea di un'unica grande nazione ancora non si è avverata, e non la vedo nemmeno all'orizzonte. Resto comunque fiducioso, nonostante tutto... 😊
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to be fair though, computer skills can't help much with printers. You need to use witchcraft instead.
CC: @Gina@fosstodon.org
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@_elena failing at printers is a qualification for IT professionals. nobody understands it :)
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@Gina for sure! 🥰
she's a bit skeptical of my computer skills after I failed to get the printer to work the other day, but I'm trying to restore a good image, LOL
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@_elena oh my... good idea. I probably should show my 8 year old daughter my website.
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@aeva I had looked into setting up a free perforce server on Oracle hosted vm - but then its with Oracle too
But the idea was enough around the same thought
