@normjess @chrisafk I stopped listening to Pakman a while ago. He seemed to miss the nub of issues a bit too much.Worth remembering too that "Left" in the US context is quite different to "Left" in many other countries. The most right wing anti-immigration mainstream party in Norway, the "Progress" Party (FrP) has a platform, that, on many issues is well to the left of the Democrats in the US.Even though that they would like to become the Norwegian version MAGA.